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business connect franchise

Posted by blaine in Franchise on 08.06.2009 9:16:54 pm | 1607 views

hi i'm considering a franchise called www.businessconnectuk.co.uk,

i have spoken to two of the franchisees ( that they had call me)

and they gave rave reviews ( ut what would you expect lol)

 

what i'd like to hear is if any one else has had dealings with this company and if so how did they get on, also i have struggled to find out much about them,

 

but from the meetings i have had they seem ok and i feel i could make a go of it.

 

please some one give me some advice lol.

 

blaine

Comments

Matthew on 09.06.2009 8:47:42 am

Hi Blaine

I cannot find a great deal about them either.  Looking at their website domain I see it was registered on 24th Dec 2008 so it's not been up long, this could mean a number of things.

1. They are a new franchise
2. They only recently gained a website
3. They changed domain names.

Would this be the same franchise? (it is) http://www.franchisedirect.co.uk/businessconsultingfranchises/businessconnect-franchise-06454/

Looks similar but "business connect" is fairly generic, assuming it is the same one then their site must have been in operation for less time than their franchisees have been on the go as they claim.

"Current franchisees are already earning incomes in excess of £100,000 per annum."

However their domain was only registered in December 2008.

In all honesty - I do not know anything about them, it could be a good opportunity so I do not want to blast them however their domain only being regged in December sets a few alarm bells ringing so you should ask them about that.  There is nothing wrong with new franchises and this is a very low cost opportunity at less than 5k, however there is always an element of risk involved when buying into a franchise that does not have a long successful history behind them.  Again though, it is a low cost opportunity and perhaps their price reflects the fact that they are very new.  Claims of earning over £100,000 per year for an investment of under 5k seem a little wild to me so I would ask for proof of this.

My opinion:  Tread carefully and gather all the facts,

Find out how many franchisees they have.
How long they have been in operation.
Ask for a full list of franchisees + contact details.
Ask for the accounts of the business and get an accountant to look over them.
Ask how long the company operated before franchising their business. (this will let you know whether they planned their business to franchise or ran it as a successful homegrown company in it's own right)

 

 

 

Kind regards,


Matthew Anderson

The Franchise Shop

 

blaine on 15.06.2009 1:55:34 pm

hi matthew thanks for the advice i will get them to answer the questions you suggested,

 

i have spoken to two of the franchisees now and have their details they seem to check out ok ( but it could still be a ellaborate scam , i was caught out by one a few years ago.)

 

they seem to have been upfront about things so far eg; not to expect the £100,000 a year for a while as it will build slowly, and that they are a newish company only started trading in 2007.

 

like you i cannot find much on the company but like you said may just be new to franchising.

 

am i just being to sceptical as i was burned before?

 

thanks blaine 

 
P Lester on 01.07.2009 12:35:37 pm

Hi Blaine,

I myself have had a meeting with this company and I too am a little sceptical. However from what I was told and shown they certainly seem to have there heads screwed on and I don't think that with that much organisation they would want to rip anybody off. The guy I met told me he started in June 2006 and until the April 2007 he earned 40k and then to April 2008 he made 100k, he also told me that it would take 2 or 3 months before I could see any real income coming in so I think they are legit. The way I am looking at it is that for 5k if I earn half what they claim I will still be doing ok. Let me know what you think and if you have joined them.

Paul

 
Homerloner on 03.07.2009 10:04:54 am

I too am thinking about joining this company and am going for a meeting next week.  It does sound promising and I'm hopeful - but also have had a bad experience of franchise previously.

 

Has anyone moved on any further in finding out if its all legit?

 

 
blaine on 07.07.2009 5:34:19 pm

hi again

 

i have spoken to two of their franchisees again and they have said it only getting better !!

 

i emailed the list of questions above and they have promised to send me any account i wish to see and if i want a full list of franchisees.

 

i think i'm going to go for it like you said P Lester if i make half what they say i'm laughing   and like you the franchisees said it takes three or four month to start making good money but it does trickle in before that point.

 

 

and they also said that the support and training were very good and had no problems with customers so far.

 

blaine     nervous but going for it if i dont try i'll never know keep in touch guys lets do it together.

 
blaine on 16.07.2009 3:34:26 pm

hi guys just an update on how things are going so far.

 

i have recieved their company accounts information and had a read meant nothing to me lol ( sending it to my accountant to see what he thinks)

 

i had been trying to make contact with a man called jay as i had done most of my communication with him.

 

but i recieved a phone call today saying that he was no longer with the company?

 

now this has made me nervous.

 

did some more digging and it appears the only two franchisees that i have spoken two are the only two that give a tesimonial on the site?  ( smells fishy to me )

 

i have asked for a complete list of franchisees now as it not looking to good lol.

 

please somebody leave something.

 

 

 

 

 
whitey on 16.07.2009 8:59:49 pm

Hi guys,

 

I am quite a new addition to the business connect franchise, i started with them about 3 months ago and have earned £7500 so far, i have also got a lot of business in the pipe line worth double this.

 

I was a little specital at first also and did alot of fishing around, in the end a decided to give it a go and i can defentetly say i am well pleased with business connect.

 

Yes blaine, jay was my mentor, he got the sack basically as he wasnt doing his job. He was suppose to be looking after us but never!

 

 

 
Matthew on 16.07.2009 9:04:42 pm

Hi Blaine

mmmm certainly sounding a little "fishy" to me too.  You need to go with your gut instincts on these things, although 5k is not much for a franchise it is by no means a small chunk of cash and i'm sure you would kick yourself if in a few months time if you made the wrong decision  It could well be that this is a decent opportunity but again, 5k for 100k yearly returns just does not sound right to me.  If they can do that for you then they have found "The Secret To Making Money" !! They should be doing this for themselves and earning several million a year.....

Moving house atm so sorry for the short n blunt reply, I have not done any further research on them but from what you have said and my own thoughts on the "minimum" i could find on them + the discrepancies in their website going live, promises of 100k a year and current franchisees already earning that, well.. Wouldn't - touch - barge - pole.

 

Kind regards,


Matthew Anderson

The Franchise Shop

 

whitey on 16.07.2009 9:10:34 pm

hi mathew,

 

just read you comment, i can tell you it does work, even though i only been with them for 3 months and only earned £7,500 i can see that the system does work and i can see the earning potentail is there. i think £100k per year is not going to be a problem if trading for a few years.

 

thanks paul

 

 
Matthew on 16.07.2009 9:20:04 pm

Hi Paul

This one has alarm bells ringing all over it.  Even you coming on here has me thinking "He's been sent in to give a good impression"

You are saying you have made your franchise fee back + 2.5k in 3 months.  If this is as good as you say it is then by the end of the year this franchise will be the hottest and most profitable franchise in the UK.  It will be featured in every biz magazine and the owners will be voted entrepreneurs of the year 2009.

I could be wrong but having seen many franchise scams/failures over the past 12 months and giving a few the benefit of the doubt, this one is really feeling a little sketchy to me.

The 100k mentioned is supposed to have been reached already yet the website was only launched late last year which seems odd to me.  Not every company has a website but 99.9% of established companies do.  If the owners can produce the magic franchisee that earned 100k in a year then perhaps we are getting somewhere.  Even 7.5k in 3 months is very good and with franchisees making that word would spread fast and testimonials would be coming through like a freight train.

Sorry Paul, still thinking that Blaine should steer clear.

 

Kind regards,


Matthew Anderson

The Franchise Shop

 

whitey on 16.07.2009 9:37:43 pm

yes fair enough comments....

 

at the end of the day im not bothered weather he joins or not. He just wanted some advice so i gave him it. If he feels that spectical about it then maybe he best stay clear no skin off my nose. lol

 

thanks paul

 
Matthew on 16.07.2009 9:58:06 pm

Well Paul

Due to my ever so slightly sceptical and negative comments  I think the people from Business Connect UK should come on and comment.  I could be being really unfair on them and if earnings are what they say they are and the majority of their franchisees are hitting their targets then having a public thread that may put off potential franchisees would not be something I would want to broadcast to the world so some clarification and real franchisee testimonials would be good. 

I'm sure Blaine will gain some good feedback if he asks for a full list of franchisees which will go a long way to determining how successful they are.  It would also be good to see the franchisee's books that gained 100k within 2 years. 

 

Quoted from Franchise Direct is

 

"Current franchisees are already earning incomes in excess of £100,000 per annum."

 

Proof of this would be all that is needed assuming the "franchisees" had no previous affiliation with the owners.

 

 

Kind regards,


Matthew Anderson

The Franchise Shop

 

blaine on 21.07.2009 1:53:09 pm

thanks for the input guys.

 

whitey . what area are you working in? its nice to hear from another franchisee

 

i have spoken to the MD of the company seems a nice guy explained about jay.

 

have spoken at length to another franchisee. he was so upbeat and couldnt sing its praises enough. have another meeting today with a guy called ryan coming all the way from liverpool to see me?

 

 

i'll post the results later

 

blaine

 

 
P Lester on 22.07.2009 8:05:04 pm

Hi Guys,

Well I think someone will join soon and it could be me. I understand Mathews comments as a proffesional but every company has to have a start date and for some it may only be 2 or 3 years ago. I had a meeting with Ryan and he told me he made 100k he told me he started in june 2007 and by April he had made 40k then between April 2008 and April 2009 he made his 100k which is why they asked him to do the recruting job. I have spoken to 2 Franshisees today the first was not particulary helpfull and I don't think from what he said that he is very succesful but he said the company was ok and he was making money but I don't think he will make 100k. The second guy I spoke to was quite the reverse he was driving when I called so I offered to call back but he said no and pulled over to speak to me, he is called Mike and was very positive, he has been with the company for 4 months and said he would definately make 100k next year, he told me he made nothing for the first 6 weeks but his last months pay cheque was for 3k and that he has a lot of business pending ie waiting for renewal dates etc. Mike was very forthcoming with the info and very believable. It will be a first for me but maybe we might just have landed on our feet.

 

PS. When I met with Ryan he did tell me that the boss had said about raising the fee to 20k but decided not to as they did not want to look as though they were making money just from the fee.

 

Regards

Paul Lester

 
agsy on 23.07.2009 4:00:58 pm

Hi Paul

Just before you commit your £5K why don't you ask to visit their head office operation in Aberystwyth and meet with the MD and ALL the backroom staff who will be providing the much needed support you'll undoubtedly need if you are going to be the road warrior out there winning new business. It is probably along way to travel but it could save you alot of dosh if the place turns out to be a milking shed on a remote hill farm. Have you asked how many full time staff they have backing the operation?

 

 
P Lester on 24.07.2009 7:47:14 pm

Hi Guys and Galls apparently,

Jackie hi, and Blaine,

I have spoken to Ryan and Stewart (the MD) today and I am told that Jackie (J Neilson) and Blain have joined this week, if you have I wish you luck and will probably be meeting you soon.

Good luck

paul

 
JimmyG on 09.11.2009 8:33:30 pm

Hi All,

 

I'm having a serious think about this franchise so I'm keen to hear from those of you who have taken the plunge, i.e Blaine and Whitey and co. It certainly looks like a great opportunity in principle but this post has raised a few questions. Be great to hear from you guys please.

 

Jim.

 
Matthew on 12.11.2009 9:55:52 amHi Jimmy Thanks for revitalising this post. I too am still looking to learn more about this franchise and in all honesty am none the wiser to their integrity. I still have my doubts but am happy to eat my words if it turns out to be a good little business. 

Kind regards,


Matthew Anderson

The Franchise Shop

 

JimmyG on 14.11.2009 5:13:57 pm

Thanks Matthew. What's your interest? Are you just trying to get a view of what franchises are out in the market. What's your general feeling on whats out there? What are the things to look out for? It would be good if some of the guys who have taken up this franchise reported back.

JimmyG

 
Matthew on 18.11.2009 10:22:26 am

Hi Jimmy

 

Purely trying to decipher what this franchise is about and whether it is a viable opportunity.  Any franchise that tries to claim franchisee earnings of £100,000 in the first year is setting themselves up for a fall to be honest and of course they have to live up to these claims if they are to look in any way legitimate.  So far i am yet to be convinced on this one and I too would like to see some current franchisees on here (that were not previously affiliated with the company ) and hear their opinion.

 

Still waiting to eat my words but it has alarm bells ringing all over it..

 

Kind regards,


Matthew Anderson

The Franchise Shop

 

JimmyG on 22.11.2009 8:15:34 pm

Well at the moment Matthew the silence is speaking for itself.

 

Jimmy

 
Canch on 22.12.2009 4:40:06 pm

I'm trying to gather some independent research on this company. I know they changed their name to Enterprise connect UK ltd in Sept.2009 and have offices in Oxford and Aberystwyth. Apparently they have been trading since 2006, but I can't find any information for Business Connect from Aberystwyth even though they have been trading there for a number of years. The director is S N Reeves, but again I can't find anything relating him with the business. Generally if you search google or any other search engine with either a company or directors name there is usually a lot of information, but on this occasion very little info is available.  What are your thoughts?

 

Canch

 
Homerloner on 07.01.2010 8:24:28 am

Does anyone have any more information about this franchise?

 

If people did buy into it and the claims the company are making - turn out to be untrue - what recompense do they have?

 

Surely franchisors cannot make claims like the "already earning £100k+" if that isn't true - can they?

 
blaine on 29.04.2010 12:46:22 pm

I Urge every one to steer clear of this franchise i and several others have been ripped off by stuart reeves he currently owes me around 10k for business i bought in during my franchise time, then just after xmas he decided he didnt want franchisees anymore and pulled the plug on around ten of us promising to pay back the franchise fee and commisions owed but now wont reply to any form of communication i  and others have since employed debt collectors to retrieve the money owed to us !!!!!!!

 
Matthew on 30.04.2010 1:47:25 pm

Hi Blaine

 

Really sorry to hear about your problems with these guys.  I do wish you had taken my advice above as I was very sceptical about them.  On the back of this I am going to create a sticky thread for the top of this forum where we will name and shame such people and their companies.

 

Best of luck with recouping your money and if you have further details of this scam please email them to me at matthew@the-franchise-shop.com so I can provide further information about them if asked.

 

Kind regards,


Matthew Anderson

The Franchise Shop

 

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